Thyme 4 Tea with Mikita

Chris Gibson: How Your Lifestyle Could Be Affecting Your Skin Health

October 04, 2022 Season 2 Episode 55
Thyme 4 Tea with Mikita
Chris Gibson: How Your Lifestyle Could Be Affecting Your Skin Health
Show Notes Transcript

"I'm very disciplined, consistent, determined, and straightforward, you know, and I formulated a couple of skincare lines, so I know a lot about ingredients, and it's something that I live every day, so I do what I live every day

This is Chris Gibson's story...

Chris Gibson is a skincare expert and YouTuber who has been working in the industry for over 20 years. He has written a book on skincare and has appeared on television to share his knowledge with the world.

I've always been interested in health and wellness, and my journey with skincare began when I was 11 years old and started having acne problems. I tried all the traditional treatments, but nothing worked. So I started learning about nutrition and aesthetics and figuring out what worked for me on my own. In 2004, I wrote a booklet on my findings, and it became a bestseller. I started doing television appearances and became known as a skincare expert. In 2018, I decided to start a YouTube channel to share my knowledge with a wider audience. I'm now 59 years old and still going strong, sharing everything I know about skincare and how to age gracefully.

In this episode, you will learn the following:
1. How lifestyle choices can affect skin health
2. The importance of nutrition and skincare
3. The benefits of using non-invasive therapies for anti-aging

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Hello, my friends, and welcome back. It is time for tea, and I'm your host, mikita. I want to thank you for sharing your time, your space and your energy with me today. So today I am spilling some hot tea with Chris Gibson, and we're talking about all things skincare and how your lifestyle could be affecting your skin health. So, Chris, thank you for coming on.

And spilling some tea anytime. So I know you have skincare is nothing new for you. But before we dive into all the tea on skincare, can you tell us three words that you would use to describe who you are?


Oh, that's hard.

It would apply all the time.

Determined, consistent, and straightforward. I love that. And you can definitely see the determination and consistency.

I would have added discipline but determined in discipline, kind of the same thing. Yeah, sometimes it depends on the day of the week for me. How discipline? Yeah, same for everybody. That's for everybody.

Yes. So I know, like I said in the beginning, skincare is nothing new for you, but what was your journey like? How did you get into that aspect?

Just like for a lot of people, for things you end up having a passion for when it comes to health and wellness, it's usually becoming something. So skin issues very early on, acne problems, and so none of the traditional things for the dermatologist worked for me. So I was one of those people that got a little bit better, but it never went away type of thing. And even when Accutane came out in the 80s, which they still give to people, it helped a little bit, but it didn't get rid of anything. So I ended up having to figure it out on my own.

In my early 20s, which I did. I figured the pieces of what triggered my problems with skin had to do with my diet, antibiotics, use a child in the with tonsillitis and things like that. You have heavy rounds of antibiotics. You pretty much got antibiotics for anything back then. So that being said, killed out the good bacteria.

And so you have imbalance in your intestinal system, your digestive system, more yeast, more sensitivity of your immune bacteria even on your skin. So there were a lot of things that I learned from that process. And as far as being public with it and being what I do, that's what happened slowly, because I had a traditional sort of life in the corporate world, but I was always helping people with this issue when it would come up, because it's part of my story. So I didn't really try to hide it. But we wrote a booklet on it in early 2004 because at the time, I had started a business to help businesses learn how to market online after bust, which seems like a really long time ago, but it wasn't so far ago.

It really wasn't my business partner had been remote. So we said, we're going to do this seriously, we should meet. And I met his fiancee at the time, and she was very interested in how I worked the way I did at 40. So that got that conversation sort of guy walk this walk with all of this stuff. And so we decided, or she decided I should write a booklet on it.

So I did, thinking, whatever, if people want to read that, it'd be interesting to see how it does. Amazon was not selling ebooks yet, so it was on Clickbank, and it just went crazy. Like the next day, there were like hundreds of sales of this little booklet. So the booklet became a paperback, then the paperback became a hardcover, and then it got picked up by a TV producer where I had skincare issues, just like I'd had in her forty s. And she had me come on television, and that sort of just turned on that whole engine, and suddenly I was in the skincare business with a book.

So it became the main thing for me. I'd already studied nutrition and aesthetics and all of that. I always learned about those things and studied them for my own benefit, really. Not to have clients so much. But over that 1015 years, the book was really popular, and I was doing a lot of television.

I did all of that, and so I took a break from it after the big recession in 2008 and nine. And we all have it seems like everybody has that period in their life where things are just weird. My mom passed away in that period. The business environment was terrible to have discretionary income, so I wasn't selling products anymore. I just decided to sell it on to Florida and sit on the beach for a while and worked with clients kind of one on one.

And then I decided in 2018, I think I want to do something new, but I don't want to do a new book yet. I don't want to television because I don't know, for four years. And while it was a wonderful experience and a blessing in so many ways, it was hard. It was hard work. So I decided to test out my YouTube channel, which was at that time, just a bunch of clips from television.

I would take the clips from the TV shows, put them on YouTube so that we could put them on the website and stuff. So I did a video on skin cancer causing ingredients in sunscreens, because the thing had just come out that year about banning them in Hawaii and Australia and here in Florida and Key West because of the damage it was due to the coral reef system. Some of those chemicals, oxen oxide, oxybenzone, avobenzone.

I thought if I put this out, it does well, then I know I still relevant.

It did all right for YouTube for someone who was not a YouTuber. I did all right, so I stuck with it and did some blogging on my journey with Intervention Fasting because I had put on a little bit weight sitting on the beach and talked about still help with acne, holistic approaches to health, everything from mold, skin tags, acne issues, ecstasy, psoriasis, all of those things. The holistic approaches that you could use, which they did. Okay. But it was when I started talking about antiaging and the fact that I'm almost 60, people really paying attention.

That got a lot of attention on YouTube because people thought either I was faking it, lying, or I need to put my license up on the I'm not putting my personal information on the Internet.

We got through that phase. Well, hold on time. You're almost 60 in real life. Yeah, I'll be 59 in March.

60 and still talking about skincare. Yes. I've walked again, very disciplined, consistent, determined, and straightforward, you know, and I formulated a couple of skincare lines, so I know a lot about ingredients, and it's something that I live every day, so I do what I live every day now as a YouTuber. It kind of puts me in a weird space for me because I'm the only guy really in the over 50 set talking antiaging, other than maybe a plastic surgeon or two that are on YouTube. It's mostly ladies, and they do fashion and makeup and all the things that go with being over 50.

But my audience is half men routinely. It slows a little bit depending on what type of content I'm doing. And I still have my 20 year olds, 30 year olds. So people have this really eclectic, strange mix of viewers. But it's great because the younger people are learning what I learned when I was that age, which is very helpful to them.

There's a lot of interest in that. And then, of course, I'm helping people that didn't take care of their skin so well.

Yeah, I talk about, what can you do? I'm going to be doing a series with a local plastic surgeon that's very like-minded about how much is too much and when is it necessary for when you can only get topicals to go so far? So that's exciting. And then all the new technology for skin, the red light, therapies RF therapy, home devices where you can do EMS, things that you used to have to come to someone licensed, someone like me to provide that service. You can micro.

Noodle. At home, there's just so much of a history. So there's so much to talk about. So really good. I'm really excited about it.

It's never boring. No, it's not. And then I try to wrap in nutrition and fitness and supplementation and those things to help around out the whole plan of how you're going to age gracefully and feel good, that it's still good. So I'm not really trying to roll people's age back to 20 most of the people that follow me, I don't think they want to look like some of the celebrities we see that are really pushing the envelope, like Madonna.

And I talk about how to avoid that happening to you because the sooner you start using both talks, the less longevity you're going to get out of it. So those techniques work for a while, but anytime you're freezing the muscle, it shrinks. So you end up with Saggy, you end up with issues and you still end up with a Facebook. So I try to help people do everything possible that we know you can do to look good and healthy. I don't have any work done.

I don't use botox. I do what I talk about on the channel. I get a deep skin pill once a quarter to take the old skin off and we use sunscreen. And I'm very, very consistent in my product use. And I have devices as well, which is really, I think, made a big difference.

Red light therapy, math that I use, RF therapy. So I get to do a lot of this stuff at home that I would have to go in the past, you would have to go to see someone pay to have that done. So you can actually have those devices at home. So it's interesting how it's all come together. Yeah, I wish my younger self go ahead.

No, I just wish my younger self would have known what I know now when it comes a little bit of what I know now when it comes to skin care especially, I think what are you putting in your body also comes out on your skin.

I was watching one of your YouTube videos and you talked about sunscreen and how people feel like, oh, I don't use sunscreen, I'm getting the vitamin D, and how important vitamin D is for the skin. And those nourishments help your skin in so many different ways. Right, yeah.

Being where I'm at now, I attributed to people that say genetics. But my genetics were not toward healthy skin. I was already having issues at eleven, so it really was the consistency with which I handled my diet. I did a lot of fasting when I was in my twenties because that was the way to cleanse. Now I do intermittent fasting.

Kind of got me back on track with weight and how well I feel, because autophagy is such an important process in the body. And when we're out of sync, when we're tired, we're not getting enough rest, when we're not eating well, we're not providing the nutrition that our body needs to take out the trash, which is what that process is. That's when things start to break down and slow down and become a problem. And then there's topical things. I knew to use glycolic acid to keep the skin cells turning over, and sunscreen, of course, obviously, and then of course, the deep peel to get my skin reset because as we get older, the whole process of skin cells sloughing off, slows down.

So the only way to address that is really exfoliation. So I'm a big believer now, like Pharrell, who's 50 now, right? 49. He looks amazing. He tells me, Well, I exfoliate.

I'm taking skin off somewhere all the time. So really that's an important thing that gets missed a lot in skincare. And I'm not talking about using scrubs. I can do a lot more damage. Humans tend to overdo things, so I try to stay away from uncontrolled things that you do because it's like micro needling it works really, really well, but it's a little hesitant for people to do that at home because there's a tendency more is better sort of thing or deeper or harder is going to produce better results.

And that's not the case with a lot of these types of therapies. It's sort of the same thing with people going to get too much Botox and have frozen face or too much fillers, and their face looks ridiculous. So what you want is enhancement. You don't want to look like somebody different than who you are. So it's a fine line between trying to say, okay, you can do these things.

I really like the non invasive therapies, like RF and red light because it's hard to abuse those. And the machines are typically designed to shut off when they're supposed to shut off so that you know you're done. But also all of this creates a conundrum for a lot of people. It's confusing. What should I be doing?

What should I be using? How do I know it's working? Yeah. Where should I start? Exactly?

So I try to answer all that stuff, and I can be a little repetitive in the videos because as the channel is growing so quickly, there are whole set every month, there's five to 10,000 people that didn't see that stuff. So I have to somehow stick, you know, kind of bring some of that forward because it's the basis and there's a lot of false premise out there with skincare where the skincare industry has allowed itself to say things in ways that would lead you to believe certain results would be almost immediate. And that's usually not the truth. What's the biggest one you think that you've heard that most people, like, come. To you with facelift in a bottle?

No, there's nothing in a bottle that's going to give you your face lift overnight.

I got accused of that acne free in three days. But the premise and the basis of that was true. I took food out of my diet for three I took a fast for three days and I had no more acne. That happened. So, you know, there's a big difference between something like that and then saying the product is going to provide a certain result overnight.

When it comes to skincare, the thing that you're going to see the most results out of the fastest, perhaps overnight, is hydration. So if you're using a really good hydrating night mask that has a lot of hydration components to it, when you rinse it off in the morning, because your skin has had a whole night's worth of that, yeah, you will see some difference. Things like frownies, which I talk about, are the silicone patches that you sleep with that hold the skin, like kind of like external botox still and help lift up those. You are going to see a difference the next day. That kind of stuff will work.

But putting on a cream and getting a facelift out of it, that does not happen. Putting on a cream, which is kind of scary, and having no more dark discoloration overnight is not going to happen. Skin is very slow. Just think about how long it takes for a sword to heal. It heals.

Skin knows it. But it takes skin cells form and then move forward. So I just make jokes. What you see is old news. It's really old news.

But what you see on the outside is a product of where you've been, not where you necessarily are. So as you do these therapies and you get a good in place, and you're very consistent with it over 30, 60, 90 days, you start to see a big difference. Within a year, you start to see an even bigger display. When we're talking about retinol products, tretinoin, even over the counter retinols, those take a lot of time to provide results. But they do provide results, really good ones, if you're consistent with them and can tolerate them, because not everybody's hand.

And that also leads me to the facials. How effective or how, like, should you be getting the facial every month? I had a friend of mine that actually went and got official, and they were like they did something like an anti aging, and they were like, I'm going to put this cream on tonight, and tomorrow I'm going to wake up and I'm just going to have like and I'm like, yeah, I don't think that's how it works. But.

Facials, professional facials, like the hydro facial, which is a deeply hydrating it's an exfoliation and deeply hydrating facial. If you go in and have diamond therapy or some sort of laser therapy, you're going to see a pretty immediate difference. Skin peels pretty immediate, but your skin has to heal from them. So it's not like you can run out. There's some downtime with a lot of these all therapy.

Ultrasound, therapies red light therapies. Within a few weeks, you can see these are in office treatments. On top of that level, you will see some the. Hydra facial, probably out of all of them, is going to be the one that you see the most change in the skin texture. And so we need to kind of break skincare into two components.

A facelift would lift and tighten the skin and pull out the wrinkles, but it doesn't change in the texture. It does nothing for hyperpigmentation or age spots. So all it does is lift the skin. So you still have to do something about the surface of your skin. So I always approach the surface first because I think once you get where you're happy with those issues or happier, then what you want to have done is a little bit different.

Your expectations are probably a lot more reasonable than a filler to fill out what didn't get taken care of. That makes some sense because you're using less invasive therapies for your skin. The other thing I tell people is once you go there, it's unlikely you're going to want to stop doing that. So you think about the expense over the long run. Are you prepared to pay for $500 a year for fillers?

Are you prepared to pay $1,000 a year for Botox treatments? Are you prepared to pay the skin peels I do are 100 and $5200 every quarter. That's $800. You have to think about what your long term investments nobody wants to do that and get results and then not keep it up. So, you know, that's the thing.

We're going to do that and not do it anymore. So I really try to steer people into things that are effective, that they can do at home to get them to a certain point, and then if they're still not happy, which many are, the fact that their skin texture looks so much better because that's what really makes people. It's not so much lines and wrinkles, but it's sagginess, creepiness, discoloration, kind of dull looking skin is what really makes a person's skin look older. Whereas some crow's feet people have those I tell people nasal label lines to go back and look at your high school pictures. A lot of this stuff is genetic.

You had them then, you just didn't hate them the way you do now, because the rest of your skin looks so youthful and fresh. So it just was part of how your face works. People forget that stuff. I did not have crow's feet in high school. I did not have lines when I smiled.

Go back and look, and they'll go, oh, I did have that, because they were dynamic lines. Everybody has those. What happens as we get older, they become static lines don't go away. So a lot of the skincare surface treatments that you can do help those static wrinkles relax and not be so apparent anymore. And then people are really happy, but if they're not, then they can go in and they're in a better place to make the decision about what kind of treatment they want.

Do you find that most people have to really work on their diet in this a lot more? I wish they would.

It is helpful. All cells in the body you're creating either healthier cells to replace the older ones or you're not. And so study after studies come out, there was one last October a year ago called a Health God study. The last part of that gott and they took sedentary individuals 52 to 75 and gave them a better diet, gave them some activity, 20 minutes of moderate activity a day. This is not jogging.

This is not marathons. This is swimming and dancing, like some walking, whatever they could get them to do. And they were able to roll back their biological age by three years in eight weeks. So the chronological age might have been 55, but you rolled it back to 52. So that's just in eight weeks.

So as people maintain that and improve their health, their skin obviously improves. It's just a given. And conversely, people who are over addicted to exercise, their skin ages. So there is a balance. There.

A lot of athletes, the lean and main types that keep that up and don't bring it down to some sort of moderate level, they tend to look older. They also usually outdoors, have some sun damage. So there's a balance there. You want to feel good and you want to let your body at an optimum level, you want to maximize that. And of course, supplementation.

I talk about that all the time. Vitamin K, very important, especially for the ladies, because it helps the body manage calcium distribution correctly so that it doesn't end up in your arteries and it ends up in the bones and the cartilage and the collagen where it belongs. So having a good diet that's balanced, you don't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be vegetarian, even. But a Mediterranean style diet with healthy or oils, lean meats, fish, lots of leafy greens, because of the minerals that you need, it can really make a difference.

I see that I mentioned that because my daughter, she was told that a lot of your skin issues is because of how you eat. And she's younger, and she went on this two week cleanse and her skin immediately cleaned up. The dark spots went away. Yeah. And then she was like, oh, I'm better, and back to it.

And then it comes back. And then it comes back. Yeah. It does make a big difference. I tell people I eat a banana every morning, just about a grapefruit.

I have standard things, avocado. I eat a lot of that. That doesn't mean that if I'm out somewhere and I want a piece of cheesecake, I don't have one. But that's not something I eat every day. My daily food choices are lean proteins.

I have a keto style cereal that I eat that's high fiber, no sugar. I'm very big on low sugar. Sugar is the big problem for most people in that. Too much sugar. We know about diabetes.

We don't have to go into that. But beyond that, it creates a problem when there's too much sugar in the body for it to handle glycation. It becomes an oxidant, and it actually damages your cell walls. We know that it weakens and slows collagen production, and it weakens fibroblast and the fibrous parts of your skin that keep it from being saggy and plump and nice. Like we want our skin to stay.

So the part for me has been that low sugar, no sugar bent, if you will, because of my acne problems or when it just became a habit. I don't eat a lot of sweets. Doesn't mean I won't have one if I want that. This is the first summer I have ever gone and not have ice cream, which I'm finding fascinating. I just haven't craved it.

Usually it's so hot in Florida. Usually ice cream is like and I go down, I have my Shamrock Shake, but I have a Shamrock Shake. I don't have one every day for the month.

That's one of my favorite things. So it's not that I don't get to enjoy stuff. If you were to look at my choices, my daily choices, it is very much the same. I mean, salads unfortunate that I like salads, but I change the up. But, you know, if we go to a restaurant, I have wine, I have the pasta, and it doesn't impact me because it's one day out of many.

Yeah, I love that mostly. So it's just really a balance and making sure that you're aware of what you're putting in your body.

Making sure you get enough fluid and not just lighting from juices, but actual water is very important. It is. Hydration dehydration is a big problem for a lot of people. It really, really, really is. Really, really is.

Yeah. Drinking water will do so much. I tell you, trying to get that 5810 glasses of water that depending on who you listen to, they tell you to get it's better, to just have it nearby when you step on it, are fine. But having some liquid, that is going to help keep you hydrated throughout the day, and that's going to make a big difference in the way your skin looks, especially when you wake up in the morning.

We've all had those nights out where we came in and were super dehydrated the next day and looked in the mirror and go, what the hell happened to me? Your friends are going, late night hydration is because come a very important in fact, I drink Pedialite off and on now throughout the week, just to have to make sure I have something in there that I know has the electrolytes. Because we sweat here all the time. It's just warm. So you're outside ten minutes, you're sweating, you're in the house.

Even though it's cooler, it's still that radiant heat. So I try to make sure I'm very mindful this summer. Maybe I haven't craved ice cream. I've been very mindful of being hydrated. It's been like a point of focus for me to make sure that I'd rather be overhydrated a little bit because if you're out and about, even at night here, it's 80 deg.

People have this summer lost their dogs to heat exhaustion and it's a hard lesson to learn. The dog gets dehydrated and overheated, so people do the same thing and we can run and get an air conditioner and recover pretty quickly. But I know from medical professionals that I'm friends with, almost without exception, when people come into the emergent with anything going on, the first thing they notice is that they're dehydrated. So they get an IV just to get their hydration back where it needs to be so that they can look at the other symptoms or whatever they have going on. That says a lot.

I like the fact that you mentioned the electrolytes because I was just having a conversation with my husband and we were talking about drinking water and I was like, well, there's nothing wrong with water, but make sure you're getting some electrolytes there because you're sweating like everything out. So, you know, be mindful that you're replacing that back into your body.

It makes a big difference. It really does. And how you feel. I mean, you're going to feel a lot better too. Yes, you will.

So first of all, I just want to thank you for just sharing your space and your time. But tell my listeners where they can connect with you. Where can they follow you? Sure. The easiest way to find is on YouTube, Chris Skips, and you type it in, or even the channel maintenance Chris gets in live.

If you just put my name in, it comes up because I have like 600 videos also under each video in the description of all my social media links. But I'm pretty easy to find them on TikTok. Now skincare with Chris. Really? Well So I take my long form videos and make them into very short tip videos.

If you're a person that likes really short and to the point, like in a minute, TikTok is a really good place to go look at those because we're taking the best of the best and doing those. But YouTube, everything is structured where you can find it in a playlist. And then I have a blog called Skin So Fabulous and that's easy. I got to type skin so fabulous. I'm the only employer who chose that name.

Interestingly. So it comes right up. And the blog is great because it's free and it really takes everything by topic and sorts everything so you can go to a specific topic. There are courses on there. By courses I mean a questionnaire you can fill out that will tell you what your skin type is and what type of products you should use.

If you have acne issues. It does. I have one for that too. And people can direct message me on the blog and I do answer those directly. So.

I can't get to everybody's comment on YouTube anymore. It's too many 1640 subscribers. So some of those videos have thousands of comments and I kept them all. But if people go over to the blog and that link is there too, it's the first one actually usually on the description, then they can converse with me and other people, so everybody can talk to each other on that network. So if I don't get to answer something, other people usually do.

So it's really great. Awesome. Well, I just have one last question that I asked each and every guest when it comes to living life unapologetically, how would you define that?

I could be smart and go, don't apologize. There you go. Don't apologize. I think that we have to give up the idea that we can control what someone else does or what they think. And I think when you unhook yourself, when you let people off the hook, you can be surprised at how their behavior changes because it's that pool.

We see that in society right now. There's so much pushing against and pulling instead of allowing people because when you allow people not to be defensive, they tend to come to their senses, things tend to shake out and there's more common middle ground. So I don't apologize for who you are, but I think letting yourself off the hook of trying to take personally how other people are behaving I look at this way, no one can tell me in my head but me what I'm thinking. So how could I think someone else could know? And no one is going to convince me typically otherwise of what my experience has been.

So I sort of have to ferret that on my own. So by letting go of that, it's a much freer life, much easier to sift and sort through things, sort of that law of attraction sort of stuff. But I really have found that as I've gotten older so this is someone speaking that's almost 60. At the end of the day, you can't control what people do anyway. No, it really can't.

And it's this idea that you can get everybody into trouble. You know, I think most people are really good people and they just want to be happy. That's really what people want. And then if you can just let your immediate circle off the hook, you're going to feel like you do it for you. They're going to do what they want to do.

So I found that has made a big difference in my stress level and especially with YouTube. Can you imagine? I don't take any of that. There are people that 99.9% of people on YouTube are awesome. The comments, they're helpful, they don't bully.

But I have that one occasionally and I just delete them. It's fine. I'm not going to try to convince you. Like the age thing I was talking about, I could have been all defensive and I'm like you don't have to believe that if you don't want to. You can Google it and find out really easily, but I'm just going to move on.

Yeah. My favorite one now is that started when I was 56. My favorite answer to those, when they happen now, I'm 58 now. And then I do the little emoji that's like yeah, because now they'll see that, they go, 56. You have 56 now.

I'm not, I'm 50. You're right. I'm 58 now. And I go, yeah. And normally they come back.

Most of them come back and go, wow. So it's not letting that stuff get under your skin. You do have to do what's taking care of you.

If you don't, you don't have anything to give anybody. No, I mean, I'm living proof of that. I'm able to do what I do on YouTube 100% because I take care of myself. So I know what people run into and I know what's confusing and I know what ingredients do. I think it makes it helpful.

I hope it does. To most of the people who follow me, they learn, and the feedback I get is that they take responsibility for their skin and their health, and it's better. So that's good. Yeah. I over answered that question.

No, you didn't. Way over answered that question. I just wanted to know this little piece. No, actually, I love your answer. I did.

It was really great. Thank you so much. Sure. I've enjoyed it. Thank you.